Remember the other day? You know, when I first realized that my 7-year-old daughter admittedly accepted the fact that it's tough being friends with a girl and NOT be sucked into all the meanness?
How do I know this?
Because, I was a girl (once) and STILL feel the sting of being singled out for wearing a pale lemon yellow body suit, without a training bra, in the 3rd grade and (especially, if you were a girl once) you know that some girls grow up to be moms and are raising their girls the same exact way.
Or, not.
Right, or wrong, the girl can't help it…because, she's a girl.
"So, did you hear that So-and-So had a boy sleepover at her 13-year-old daughter's party?"
[eyes go wide]
At this point in my life, I don't insist on getting to involved in my kids affairs…as much as I used to…I mean.
"Yeah, actually I did, and my kid was invited and went to that same party, too."
Unless, however, it was my 13 year-old daughter and I found out a boy attended the same sleepover party….FROM ANOTHER MOTHER???
"Oh, but it's okay…he's gay!"
I was invited to a St. Patrick's Day open house hosted by a mom friend of mine (who, just might be reading along, right now…stupid Facebook) and if you were there (along with the other dozen neighborhood moms) you would NOT have mistaken my sarcasm for acceptance, at first.
"I don't care if he's gay, or not!"
Or, would you have missed the fact that my friend found out from another mom (even though, her oldest is 10) and thought it was totally unacceptable and probably wondered (silently) how my husband, Garth (not his real name) and I could have let our kid go to a sleepover party with a boy…gay, or not!
"We didn't know."
I mean, I knew that he was gay — actually, he's a really sweet kid and is very good friends with my 15 year-old girl — but, I didn't find out that he was at the party, until after, when my 13 year-old showed me the pictures she took from the party and, you know, he was there.
"The parent's didn't tell you?"
Nope.
"Maybe, he just showed up and they didn't know."
On the other hand, if it was my kid's party, it would have been difficult for me, too.
"Hello, Mrs. Thompson, this is Progressive Mom and I just wanted to call and let you know that Masculine Friend is here and will be sleeping over, as well…are you okay with that?"
Holy crap and pass the smelling salts!
"Either way, your kid SHOULD have told you!"
Aaaaand, how would that conversation have gone?
"Hey, mom, Progressive Daughter is having a sleepover and Good Friend, Best Friend, Best Friend Forever and Sometimes Frenemy are going, oh and Masculine Friend will be there, but it's okay, because you know he's gay, too…so, can I go?"
Um, no.
"Either way, I should have known better."
This is not my first kid, or our first sleepover horror story, either. Suffice it to say, my kid knows that she won't be sleeping over anyone else's house, again, unless I know EXACTLY who else is there, sharing a sleeping bag, or not.
Not at 13!
"But, daddy slept over your house when you were living with Mama and Papa!"
Yes, but I was 25 and my father STILL likes to think that he was being very, very, progressive, or that I was probably STILL a virgin, too.
The other moms?
Well, we were all pretty much in agreement…the OTHER mother should have known better, too.
"Besides, how can a 15 year-old possibly know he's gay?"
Aaaand, that's when I excused myself, went home, locked all the doors, drew the shades, popped in one of my kids' old tapes into the vcr and pretended like it was 1993, all over again.
"I love you, you love me, we're a happy fam-muh-lee!"
Remember Barney, he was purple and oh my gosh, you think maybe he was gay, too!?!?!?
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115 responses to “Co-ed Sleepovers: Yay, Nay or NO FREAKIN’ WAY?”
Ok, hubby says NO FREAKIN’ WAY!! But I can’t give you a blanket answer… It would totally
depend on where the sleepover was, whose house, who was going to be supervising, level of supervision, who the boy/s was/were… and possibly which of my daughters was going (!!) – So, If I have to give a blanket answer… it would be no just to save any heart ache… I would NOT be happy to find out that there was a boy there if I had known nothing about it before hand.
Ok, hubby says NO FREAKIN’ WAY!! But I can’t give you a blanket answer… It would totally
depend on where the sleepover was, whose house, who was going to be supervising, level of supervision, who the boy/s was/were… and possibly which of my daughters was going (!!) – So, If I have to give a blanket answer… it would be no just to save any heart ache… I would NOT be happy to find out that there was a boy there if I had known nothing about it before hand.
Ok, hubby says NO FREAKIN’ WAY!! But I can’t give you a blanket answer… It would totally
depend on where the sleepover was, whose house, who was going to be supervising, level of supervision, who the boy/s was/were… and possibly which of my daughters was going (!!) – So, If I have to give a blanket answer… it would be no just to save any heart ache… I would NOT be happy to find out that there was a boy there if I had known nothing about it before hand.
Ok, hubby says NO FREAKIN’ WAY!! But I can’t give you a blanket answer… It would totally
depend on where the sleepover was, whose house, who was going to be supervising, level of supervision, who the boy/s was/were… and possibly which of my daughters was going (!!) – So, If I have to give a blanket answer… it would be no just to save any heart ache… I would NOT be happy to find out that there was a boy there if I had known nothing about it before hand.
Ok, hubby says NO FREAKIN’ WAY!! But I can’t give you a blanket answer… It would totally
depend on where the sleepover was, whose house, who was going to be supervising, level of supervision, who the boy/s was/were… and possibly which of my daughters was going (!!) – So, If I have to give a blanket answer… it would be no just to save any heart ache… I would NOT be happy to find out that there was a boy there if I had known nothing about it before hand.
Thank you for stopping by and leaving your thoughts, Amber — you know how much that means to me — and my husband would have sided with Len, too. In fact, he did. At this point, next time it’s going to be no and perhaps it will save us the heartache…or, at least save up…for the next drama, right?
Hugs to you both,
Liz
Thank you for stopping by and leaving your thoughts, Amber — you know how much that means to me — and my husband would have sided with Len, too. In fact, he did. At this point, next time it’s going to be no and perhaps it will save us the heartache…or, at least save up…for the next drama, right?
Hugs to you both,
Liz
Thank you for stopping by and leaving your thoughts, Amber — you know how much that means to me — and my husband would have sided with Len, too. In fact, he did. At this point, next time it’s going to be no and perhaps it will save us the heartache…or, at least save up…for the next drama, right?
Hugs to you both,
Liz
Thank you for stopping by and leaving your thoughts, Amber — you know how much that means to me — and my husband would have sided with Len, too. In fact, he did. At this point, next time it’s going to be no and perhaps it will save us the heartache…or, at least save up…for the next drama, right?
Hugs to you both,
Liz
Thank you for stopping by and leaving your thoughts, Amber — you know how much that means to me — and my husband would have sided with Len, too. In fact, he did. At this point, next time it’s going to be no and perhaps it will save us the heartache…or, at least save up…for the next drama, right?
Hugs to you both,
Liz
I’m having the same problem as Amber coming up with a blanket answer. If it was a friend from the same class and I didn’t know the parents extremely well then I’d have to say no.
But… there are so many gray areas. I used to sleep over at my best friends house all the time and she has an older brother. Does that count as co-ed?
Then there are sleepovers that happen within my family. A girl sleeps over at her best friend’s house and best friend has cousins who will also be sleeping there that night. Some of those cousins are male and in one grade higher or lower than the best friend.
The big thing is that in all of these cases all parents knew exactly who would be sleeping over before the event took place. Not knowing about it before hand would make my blood simmer if not boil! I’d be reluctant to trust parties at that house ever again.
I’m having the same problem as Amber coming up with a blanket answer. If it was a friend from the same class and I didn’t know the parents extremely well then I’d have to say no.
But… there are so many gray areas. I used to sleep over at my best friends house all the time and she has an older brother. Does that count as co-ed?
Then there are sleepovers that happen within my family. A girl sleeps over at her best friend’s house and best friend has cousins who will also be sleeping there that night. Some of those cousins are male and in one grade higher or lower than the best friend.
The big thing is that in all of these cases all parents knew exactly who would be sleeping over before the event took place. Not knowing about it before hand would make my blood simmer if not boil! I’d be reluctant to trust parties at that house ever again.
I’m having the same problem as Amber coming up with a blanket answer. If it was a friend from the same class and I didn’t know the parents extremely well then I’d have to say no.
But… there are so many gray areas. I used to sleep over at my best friends house all the time and she has an older brother. Does that count as co-ed?
Then there are sleepovers that happen within my family. A girl sleeps over at her best friend’s house and best friend has cousins who will also be sleeping there that night. Some of those cousins are male and in one grade higher or lower than the best friend.
The big thing is that in all of these cases all parents knew exactly who would be sleeping over before the event took place. Not knowing about it before hand would make my blood simmer if not boil! I’d be reluctant to trust parties at that house ever again.
I’m having the same problem as Amber coming up with a blanket answer. If it was a friend from the same class and I didn’t know the parents extremely well then I’d have to say no.
But… there are so many gray areas. I used to sleep over at my best friends house all the time and she has an older brother. Does that count as co-ed?
Then there are sleepovers that happen within my family. A girl sleeps over at her best friend’s house and best friend has cousins who will also be sleeping there that night. Some of those cousins are male and in one grade higher or lower than the best friend.
The big thing is that in all of these cases all parents knew exactly who would be sleeping over before the event took place. Not knowing about it before hand would make my blood simmer if not boil! I’d be reluctant to trust parties at that house ever again.
I’m having the same problem as Amber coming up with a blanket answer. If it was a friend from the same class and I didn’t know the parents extremely well then I’d have to say no.
But… there are so many gray areas. I used to sleep over at my best friends house all the time and she has an older brother. Does that count as co-ed?
Then there are sleepovers that happen within my family. A girl sleeps over at her best friend’s house and best friend has cousins who will also be sleeping there that night. Some of those cousins are male and in one grade higher or lower than the best friend.
The big thing is that in all of these cases all parents knew exactly who would be sleeping over before the event took place. Not knowing about it before hand would make my blood simmer if not boil! I’d be reluctant to trust parties at that house ever again.
T with Honey,
My first reaction was, like…oh, that’s nice, Masculine Friend knows Best Friend, too? Then, I took a closer look at the pictures and I have to tell you…there was a lot of romping and rolling going on and, honestly, it made me very, very uncomfortable knowing that the parents allowed Masculine Friend to sleep over, without at least giving us other parents a heads up.
The group of my mom friends don’t have teenagers, yet and were all, like…OMG, NOT MY KID!…honestly, it made me feel a little stupid, at first.
Then, I went home, pulled down the shades and thought about it some more — just wait, it won’t always be so easy, they’ll see.
Thanks for stopping by and, you know, making me feel less stupid 🙂
Liz
T with Honey,
My first reaction was, like…oh, that’s nice, Masculine Friend knows Best Friend, too? Then, I took a closer look at the pictures and I have to tell you…there was a lot of romping and rolling going on and, honestly, it made me very, very uncomfortable knowing that the parents allowed Masculine Friend to sleep over, without at least giving us other parents a heads up.
The group of my mom friends don’t have teenagers, yet and were all, like…OMG, NOT MY KID!…honestly, it made me feel a little stupid, at first.
Then, I went home, pulled down the shades and thought about it some more — just wait, it won’t always be so easy, they’ll see.
Thanks for stopping by and, you know, making me feel less stupid 🙂
Liz
T with Honey,
My first reaction was, like…oh, that’s nice, Masculine Friend knows Best Friend, too? Then, I took a closer look at the pictures and I have to tell you…there was a lot of romping and rolling going on and, honestly, it made me very, very uncomfortable knowing that the parents allowed Masculine Friend to sleep over, without at least giving us other parents a heads up.
The group of my mom friends don’t have teenagers, yet and were all, like…OMG, NOT MY KID!…honestly, it made me feel a little stupid, at first.
Then, I went home, pulled down the shades and thought about it some more — just wait, it won’t always be so easy, they’ll see.
Thanks for stopping by and, you know, making me feel less stupid 🙂
Liz
T with Honey,
My first reaction was, like…oh, that’s nice, Masculine Friend knows Best Friend, too? Then, I took a closer look at the pictures and I have to tell you…there was a lot of romping and rolling going on and, honestly, it made me very, very uncomfortable knowing that the parents allowed Masculine Friend to sleep over, without at least giving us other parents a heads up.
The group of my mom friends don’t have teenagers, yet and were all, like…OMG, NOT MY KID!…honestly, it made me feel a little stupid, at first.
Then, I went home, pulled down the shades and thought about it some more — just wait, it won’t always be so easy, they’ll see.
Thanks for stopping by and, you know, making me feel less stupid 🙂
Liz
T with Honey,
My first reaction was, like…oh, that’s nice, Masculine Friend knows Best Friend, too? Then, I took a closer look at the pictures and I have to tell you…there was a lot of romping and rolling going on and, honestly, it made me very, very uncomfortable knowing that the parents allowed Masculine Friend to sleep over, without at least giving us other parents a heads up.
The group of my mom friends don’t have teenagers, yet and were all, like…OMG, NOT MY KID!…honestly, it made me feel a little stupid, at first.
Then, I went home, pulled down the shades and thought about it some more — just wait, it won’t always be so easy, they’ll see.
Thanks for stopping by and, you know, making me feel less stupid 🙂
Liz
In some ways, it makes me sad that a group of friends (boys and girls) can’t have an overnight party together when they are all truly friends.
I can remember being in high school and a group of us were invited to spend the night at a guys house because we truly had fun together and there was nothing unsavory going on.
Of course my parents said “no” and to their credit, didn’t freak out (not saying anyone freaked out here) and this was a number of years ago.
All that aside, as a parent I know that there are too many risks (social and otherwise) to it and not all parents would supervise/handle it the right way if such an event took place.
Even if I were inclined to allow it (I’m not), I’d never do something like that without informing the other parents.
My teens are on the younger end of things and I know someday that there’ll be group sleepovers (after prom, campouts, etc.) whether I know about it or not. But they will be older and perhaps less inclined to do something stupid.
In some ways, it makes me sad that a group of friends (boys and girls) can’t have an overnight party together when they are all truly friends.
I can remember being in high school and a group of us were invited to spend the night at a guys house because we truly had fun together and there was nothing unsavory going on.
Of course my parents said “no” and to their credit, didn’t freak out (not saying anyone freaked out here) and this was a number of years ago.
All that aside, as a parent I know that there are too many risks (social and otherwise) to it and not all parents would supervise/handle it the right way if such an event took place.
Even if I were inclined to allow it (I’m not), I’d never do something like that without informing the other parents.
My teens are on the younger end of things and I know someday that there’ll be group sleepovers (after prom, campouts, etc.) whether I know about it or not. But they will be older and perhaps less inclined to do something stupid.
In some ways, it makes me sad that a group of friends (boys and girls) can’t have an overnight party together when they are all truly friends.
I can remember being in high school and a group of us were invited to spend the night at a guys house because we truly had fun together and there was nothing unsavory going on.
Of course my parents said “no” and to their credit, didn’t freak out (not saying anyone freaked out here) and this was a number of years ago.
All that aside, as a parent I know that there are too many risks (social and otherwise) to it and not all parents would supervise/handle it the right way if such an event took place.
Even if I were inclined to allow it (I’m not), I’d never do something like that without informing the other parents.
My teens are on the younger end of things and I know someday that there’ll be group sleepovers (after prom, campouts, etc.) whether I know about it or not. But they will be older and perhaps less inclined to do something stupid.
In some ways, it makes me sad that a group of friends (boys and girls) can’t have an overnight party together when they are all truly friends.
I can remember being in high school and a group of us were invited to spend the night at a guys house because we truly had fun together and there was nothing unsavory going on.
Of course my parents said “no” and to their credit, didn’t freak out (not saying anyone freaked out here) and this was a number of years ago.
All that aside, as a parent I know that there are too many risks (social and otherwise) to it and not all parents would supervise/handle it the right way if such an event took place.
Even if I were inclined to allow it (I’m not), I’d never do something like that without informing the other parents.
My teens are on the younger end of things and I know someday that there’ll be group sleepovers (after prom, campouts, etc.) whether I know about it or not. But they will be older and perhaps less inclined to do something stupid.
In some ways, it makes me sad that a group of friends (boys and girls) can’t have an overnight party together when they are all truly friends.
I can remember being in high school and a group of us were invited to spend the night at a guys house because we truly had fun together and there was nothing unsavory going on.
Of course my parents said “no” and to their credit, didn’t freak out (not saying anyone freaked out here) and this was a number of years ago.
All that aside, as a parent I know that there are too many risks (social and otherwise) to it and not all parents would supervise/handle it the right way if such an event took place.
Even if I were inclined to allow it (I’m not), I’d never do something like that without informing the other parents.
My teens are on the younger end of things and I know someday that there’ll be group sleepovers (after prom, campouts, etc.) whether I know about it or not. But they will be older and perhaps less inclined to do something stupid.
Hey Busy Mom,
You are absolutely bang on — as usual — aaaand, nothing says that kids won’t get in trouble if they don’t attend co-ed sleepovers, either. Sadly, all of my kids are at an age (i.e. in school) where I cannot police their every actions. As if I wanted to, really? My middle girl, however, has always marched to the beat of a different drum (i.e., doesn’t take dance lessons) and, when word continues to get out that she even attended such a party (with a gay guy) it won’t matter whether she slept over, or not, anyway.
That’s okay, pretty much everything looks good…when it’s in black and white.
Wait until they hear I made friends with a woman, in full clown dress, while picking up cold cuts at the grocery store and she’s probably coming to my 7 year-olds party, too!
Yes, I am an equal-opportunity traumatizer.
Hugs,
Liz
Hey Busy Mom,
You are absolutely bang on — as usual — aaaand, nothing says that kids won’t get in trouble if they don’t attend co-ed sleepovers, either. Sadly, all of my kids are at an age (i.e. in school) where I cannot police their every actions. As if I wanted to, really? My middle girl, however, has always marched to the beat of a different drum (i.e., doesn’t take dance lessons) and, when word continues to get out that she even attended such a party (with a gay guy) it won’t matter whether she slept over, or not, anyway.
That’s okay, pretty much everything looks good…when it’s in black and white.
Wait until they hear I made friends with a woman, in full clown dress, while picking up cold cuts at the grocery store and she’s probably coming to my 7 year-olds party, too!
Yes, I am an equal-opportunity traumatizer.
Hugs,
Liz
Hey Busy Mom,
You are absolutely bang on — as usual — aaaand, nothing says that kids won’t get in trouble if they don’t attend co-ed sleepovers, either. Sadly, all of my kids are at an age (i.e. in school) where I cannot police their every actions. As if I wanted to, really? My middle girl, however, has always marched to the beat of a different drum (i.e., doesn’t take dance lessons) and, when word continues to get out that she even attended such a party (with a gay guy) it won’t matter whether she slept over, or not, anyway.
That’s okay, pretty much everything looks good…when it’s in black and white.
Wait until they hear I made friends with a woman, in full clown dress, while picking up cold cuts at the grocery store and she’s probably coming to my 7 year-olds party, too!
Yes, I am an equal-opportunity traumatizer.
Hugs,
Liz
Hey Busy Mom,
You are absolutely bang on — as usual — aaaand, nothing says that kids won’t get in trouble if they don’t attend co-ed sleepovers, either. Sadly, all of my kids are at an age (i.e. in school) where I cannot police their every actions. As if I wanted to, really? My middle girl, however, has always marched to the beat of a different drum (i.e., doesn’t take dance lessons) and, when word continues to get out that she even attended such a party (with a gay guy) it won’t matter whether she slept over, or not, anyway.
That’s okay, pretty much everything looks good…when it’s in black and white.
Wait until they hear I made friends with a woman, in full clown dress, while picking up cold cuts at the grocery store and she’s probably coming to my 7 year-olds party, too!
Yes, I am an equal-opportunity traumatizer.
Hugs,
Liz
Hey Busy Mom,
You are absolutely bang on — as usual — aaaand, nothing says that kids won’t get in trouble if they don’t attend co-ed sleepovers, either. Sadly, all of my kids are at an age (i.e. in school) where I cannot police their every actions. As if I wanted to, really? My middle girl, however, has always marched to the beat of a different drum (i.e., doesn’t take dance lessons) and, when word continues to get out that she even attended such a party (with a gay guy) it won’t matter whether she slept over, or not, anyway.
That’s okay, pretty much everything looks good…when it’s in black and white.
Wait until they hear I made friends with a woman, in full clown dress, while picking up cold cuts at the grocery store and she’s probably coming to my 7 year-olds party, too!
Yes, I am an equal-opportunity traumatizer.
Hugs,
Liz
Absolutely not…gay or not…I don’t think I’d go for that. And the parent should have said something.
Absolutely not…gay or not…I don’t think I’d go for that. And the parent should have said something.
Absolutely not…gay or not…I don’t think I’d go for that. And the parent should have said something.
Absolutely not…gay or not…I don’t think I’d go for that. And the parent should have said something.
Absolutely not…gay or not…I don’t think I’d go for that. And the parent should have said something.
To be able to make a decision, yay or nay, I would need a whole mess more information (if it were my kid). I MIGHT be okay with it, BUT I’d expect to be told up front that it was going to be a coed sleepover. Things are so different now than when I was a kid. We would’ve never had a boy at a sleepover. The parents wouldn’t have allowed it.
Given what I know about teens today (six more years until I need to worry about 13), I would have to say no mixed sleepover party.
To be able to make a decision, yay or nay, I would need a whole mess more information (if it were my kid). I MIGHT be okay with it, BUT I’d expect to be told up front that it was going to be a coed sleepover. Things are so different now than when I was a kid. We would’ve never had a boy at a sleepover. The parents wouldn’t have allowed it.
Given what I know about teens today (six more years until I need to worry about 13), I would have to say no mixed sleepover party.
To be able to make a decision, yay or nay, I would need a whole mess more information (if it were my kid). I MIGHT be okay with it, BUT I’d expect to be told up front that it was going to be a coed sleepover. Things are so different now than when I was a kid. We would’ve never had a boy at a sleepover. The parents wouldn’t have allowed it.
Given what I know about teens today (six more years until I need to worry about 13), I would have to say no mixed sleepover party.
To be able to make a decision, yay or nay, I would need a whole mess more information (if it were my kid). I MIGHT be okay with it, BUT I’d expect to be told up front that it was going to be a coed sleepover. Things are so different now than when I was a kid. We would’ve never had a boy at a sleepover. The parents wouldn’t have allowed it.
Given what I know about teens today (six more years until I need to worry about 13), I would have to say no mixed sleepover party.
To be able to make a decision, yay or nay, I would need a whole mess more information (if it were my kid). I MIGHT be okay with it, BUT I’d expect to be told up front that it was going to be a coed sleepover. Things are so different now than when I was a kid. We would’ve never had a boy at a sleepover. The parents wouldn’t have allowed it.
Given what I know about teens today (six more years until I need to worry about 13), I would have to say no mixed sleepover party.
Hey Cartoon Goddess,
Give me the chance to make an informed decision, that’s all I ask…takes notes…I may just save you a blog post, or two 😉
Liz
Hey Cartoon Goddess,
Give me the chance to make an informed decision, that’s all I ask…takes notes…I may just save you a blog post, or two 😉
Liz
Hey Cartoon Goddess,
Give me the chance to make an informed decision, that’s all I ask…takes notes…I may just save you a blog post, or two 😉
Liz
Hey Cartoon Goddess,
Give me the chance to make an informed decision, that’s all I ask…takes notes…I may just save you a blog post, or two 😉
Liz
Hey Cartoon Goddess,
Give me the chance to make an informed decision, that’s all I ask…takes notes…I may just save you a blog post, or two 😉
Liz
Christine,
Amen, and now I’ve got Hall and Oates running around in my head…thanks, bunches!
Liz
Christine,
Amen, and now I’ve got Hall and Oates running around in my head…thanks, bunches!
Liz
Christine,
Amen, and now I’ve got Hall and Oates running around in my head…thanks, bunches!
Liz
Christine,
Amen, and now I’ve got Hall and Oates running around in my head…thanks, bunches!
Liz
Christine,
Amen, and now I’ve got Hall and Oates running around in my head…thanks, bunches!
Liz
No, no, no, NO! I have younger boys, but even with my older girl the answer was/will be no.
Isn’t that what college is for?
Kidding. Kind of.
No, no, no, NO! I have younger boys, but even with my older girl the answer was/will be no.
Isn’t that what college is for?
Kidding. Kind of.
No, no, no, NO! I have younger boys, but even with my older girl the answer was/will be no.
Isn’t that what college is for?
Kidding. Kind of.
No, no, no, NO! I have younger boys, but even with my older girl the answer was/will be no.
Isn’t that what college is for?
Kidding. Kind of.
No, no, no, NO! I have younger boys, but even with my older girl the answer was/will be no.
Isn’t that what college is for?
Kidding. Kind of.
Headless Mom,
Yeah, college…um…something ELSE to think about AND lose sleep over, huh?
Hugs,
Liz
Headless Mom,
Yeah, college…um…something ELSE to think about AND lose sleep over, huh?
Hugs,
Liz
Headless Mom,
Yeah, college…um…something ELSE to think about AND lose sleep over, huh?
Hugs,
Liz
Headless Mom,
Yeah, college…um…something ELSE to think about AND lose sleep over, huh?
Hugs,
Liz
Headless Mom,
Yeah, college…um…something ELSE to think about AND lose sleep over, huh?
Hugs,
Liz
My oldest are 18 and (gasp) almost 15 and I would be very upset if they didn’t tell me the full scenario beforehand. I wouldn’t be upset if I got a phone call from the event to make sure I knew what was happening. The details would make the decision. I okayed a coed sleepover once when the girl’s father was camped out in the path between the separate rooms, but I have also said no when the friend’s brother was having his friends over the same night. The devil’s in the details, like knowing the other parents.
My oldest are 18 and (gasp) almost 15 and I would be very upset if they didn’t tell me the full scenario beforehand. I wouldn’t be upset if I got a phone call from the event to make sure I knew what was happening. The details would make the decision. I okayed a coed sleepover once when the girl’s father was camped out in the path between the separate rooms, but I have also said no when the friend’s brother was having his friends over the same night. The devil’s in the details, like knowing the other parents.
My oldest are 18 and (gasp) almost 15 and I would be very upset if they didn’t tell me the full scenario beforehand. I wouldn’t be upset if I got a phone call from the event to make sure I knew what was happening. The details would make the decision. I okayed a coed sleepover once when the girl’s father was camped out in the path between the separate rooms, but I have also said no when the friend’s brother was having his friends over the same night. The devil’s in the details, like knowing the other parents.
My oldest are 18 and (gasp) almost 15 and I would be very upset if they didn’t tell me the full scenario beforehand. I wouldn’t be upset if I got a phone call from the event to make sure I knew what was happening. The details would make the decision. I okayed a coed sleepover once when the girl’s father was camped out in the path between the separate rooms, but I have also said no when the friend’s brother was having his friends over the same night. The devil’s in the details, like knowing the other parents.
My oldest are 18 and (gasp) almost 15 and I would be very upset if they didn’t tell me the full scenario beforehand. I wouldn’t be upset if I got a phone call from the event to make sure I knew what was happening. The details would make the decision. I okayed a coed sleepover once when the girl’s father was camped out in the path between the separate rooms, but I have also said no when the friend’s brother was having his friends over the same night. The devil’s in the details, like knowing the other parents.
Obviously, I am in denial. My oldest daughter is turning 16 next month. Not 15.
Obviously, I am in denial. My oldest daughter is turning 16 next month. Not 15.
Obviously, I am in denial. My oldest daughter is turning 16 next month. Not 15.
Obviously, I am in denial. My oldest daughter is turning 16 next month. Not 15.
Obviously, I am in denial. My oldest daughter is turning 16 next month. Not 15.
Personally, I would have been upset to find out LATER about it. That is something that should be left up to the parents of the girls invited not the Progressive Parent doing the inviting. That is where I would be very upset.
My daughter is (almost 8– next week) and I cannot honestly tell you what I would have said. I would need to know the parents, the kid and the situation. But then again, I am Mean Mom so who knows how I would have reacted. (Probably a great need for smelling salts.)
On the flip side- Having teenage boys, I would not let a female sleep over even if she was gay. Teen boys. ANY female. Not so much.
Now, if this is some huge blow out or another circumstance, I would think about it. Probably. Maybe. I don’t know.
I am with you. Let’s go back to 1993. I mean, my son slept in the same pack and play with a girl her age and I was totally cool with that. 15 years later… not so much. And not just because the pack and play would be too small. 😉
I want my babies and the “they won’t sleep” issues back. Those don’t freak me out as much. Hard to deal with? Yes. Freak me out? No.
As for Barney being gay? Never proven, but I hear Tinkie Winkie of the Teletubbies is (or one of them). So be careful! LOL 😉
Personally, I would have been upset to find out LATER about it. That is something that should be left up to the parents of the girls invited not the Progressive Parent doing the inviting. That is where I would be very upset.
My daughter is (almost 8– next week) and I cannot honestly tell you what I would have said. I would need to know the parents, the kid and the situation. But then again, I am Mean Mom so who knows how I would have reacted. (Probably a great need for smelling salts.)
On the flip side- Having teenage boys, I would not let a female sleep over even if she was gay. Teen boys. ANY female. Not so much.
Now, if this is some huge blow out or another circumstance, I would think about it. Probably. Maybe. I don’t know.
I am with you. Let’s go back to 1993. I mean, my son slept in the same pack and play with a girl her age and I was totally cool with that. 15 years later… not so much. And not just because the pack and play would be too small. 😉
I want my babies and the “they won’t sleep” issues back. Those don’t freak me out as much. Hard to deal with? Yes. Freak me out? No.
As for Barney being gay? Never proven, but I hear Tinkie Winkie of the Teletubbies is (or one of them). So be careful! LOL 😉
Personally, I would have been upset to find out LATER about it. That is something that should be left up to the parents of the girls invited not the Progressive Parent doing the inviting. That is where I would be very upset.
My daughter is (almost 8– next week) and I cannot honestly tell you what I would have said. I would need to know the parents, the kid and the situation. But then again, I am Mean Mom so who knows how I would have reacted. (Probably a great need for smelling salts.)
On the flip side- Having teenage boys, I would not let a female sleep over even if she was gay. Teen boys. ANY female. Not so much.
Now, if this is some huge blow out or another circumstance, I would think about it. Probably. Maybe. I don’t know.
I am with you. Let’s go back to 1993. I mean, my son slept in the same pack and play with a girl her age and I was totally cool with that. 15 years later… not so much. And not just because the pack and play would be too small. 😉
I want my babies and the “they won’t sleep” issues back. Those don’t freak me out as much. Hard to deal with? Yes. Freak me out? No.
As for Barney being gay? Never proven, but I hear Tinkie Winkie of the Teletubbies is (or one of them). So be careful! LOL 😉
Personally, I would have been upset to find out LATER about it. That is something that should be left up to the parents of the girls invited not the Progressive Parent doing the inviting. That is where I would be very upset.
My daughter is (almost 8– next week) and I cannot honestly tell you what I would have said. I would need to know the parents, the kid and the situation. But then again, I am Mean Mom so who knows how I would have reacted. (Probably a great need for smelling salts.)
On the flip side- Having teenage boys, I would not let a female sleep over even if she was gay. Teen boys. ANY female. Not so much.
Now, if this is some huge blow out or another circumstance, I would think about it. Probably. Maybe. I don’t know.
I am with you. Let’s go back to 1993. I mean, my son slept in the same pack and play with a girl her age and I was totally cool with that. 15 years later… not so much. And not just because the pack and play would be too small. 😉
I want my babies and the “they won’t sleep” issues back. Those don’t freak me out as much. Hard to deal with? Yes. Freak me out? No.
As for Barney being gay? Never proven, but I hear Tinkie Winkie of the Teletubbies is (or one of them). So be careful! LOL 😉
Personally, I would have been upset to find out LATER about it. That is something that should be left up to the parents of the girls invited not the Progressive Parent doing the inviting. That is where I would be very upset.
My daughter is (almost 8– next week) and I cannot honestly tell you what I would have said. I would need to know the parents, the kid and the situation. But then again, I am Mean Mom so who knows how I would have reacted. (Probably a great need for smelling salts.)
On the flip side- Having teenage boys, I would not let a female sleep over even if she was gay. Teen boys. ANY female. Not so much.
Now, if this is some huge blow out or another circumstance, I would think about it. Probably. Maybe. I don’t know.
I am with you. Let’s go back to 1993. I mean, my son slept in the same pack and play with a girl her age and I was totally cool with that. 15 years later… not so much. And not just because the pack and play would be too small. 😉
I want my babies and the “they won’t sleep” issues back. Those don’t freak me out as much. Hard to deal with? Yes. Freak me out? No.
As for Barney being gay? Never proven, but I hear Tinkie Winkie of the Teletubbies is (or one of them). So be careful! LOL 😉
I’m still wrestling with this one days after our chat on twitter. I asked my husband and he said it wouldn’t have freaked him out. He reminded me that when Nathan sleeps over at his friend Mike’s house, Mike’s 12 and 15 year old sisters are there and they often are all in sleeping bags on the floor.
I had a very good guy friend in High School who was gay, and if this guy is anything like my friend was, he is your daughter’s and her gang’s friend, they don’t see him as a potential sex partner (I know, GAH), and vice versa. I think he’s probably really “one of the girls” in term of his overall interests.
Gay or not though, the parents should have given you a heads’ up ahead of time.
I’m still wrestling with this one days after our chat on twitter. I asked my husband and he said it wouldn’t have freaked him out. He reminded me that when Nathan sleeps over at his friend Mike’s house, Mike’s 12 and 15 year old sisters are there and they often are all in sleeping bags on the floor.
I had a very good guy friend in High School who was gay, and if this guy is anything like my friend was, he is your daughter’s and her gang’s friend, they don’t see him as a potential sex partner (I know, GAH), and vice versa. I think he’s probably really “one of the girls” in term of his overall interests.
Gay or not though, the parents should have given you a heads’ up ahead of time.
I’m still wrestling with this one days after our chat on twitter. I asked my husband and he said it wouldn’t have freaked him out. He reminded me that when Nathan sleeps over at his friend Mike’s house, Mike’s 12 and 15 year old sisters are there and they often are all in sleeping bags on the floor.
I had a very good guy friend in High School who was gay, and if this guy is anything like my friend was, he is your daughter’s and her gang’s friend, they don’t see him as a potential sex partner (I know, GAH), and vice versa. I think he’s probably really “one of the girls” in term of his overall interests.
Gay or not though, the parents should have given you a heads’ up ahead of time.
I’m still wrestling with this one days after our chat on twitter. I asked my husband and he said it wouldn’t have freaked him out. He reminded me that when Nathan sleeps over at his friend Mike’s house, Mike’s 12 and 15 year old sisters are there and they often are all in sleeping bags on the floor.
I had a very good guy friend in High School who was gay, and if this guy is anything like my friend was, he is your daughter’s and her gang’s friend, they don’t see him as a potential sex partner (I know, GAH), and vice versa. I think he’s probably really “one of the girls” in term of his overall interests.
Gay or not though, the parents should have given you a heads’ up ahead of time.
I’m still wrestling with this one days after our chat on twitter. I asked my husband and he said it wouldn’t have freaked him out. He reminded me that when Nathan sleeps over at his friend Mike’s house, Mike’s 12 and 15 year old sisters are there and they often are all in sleeping bags on the floor.
I had a very good guy friend in High School who was gay, and if this guy is anything like my friend was, he is your daughter’s and her gang’s friend, they don’t see him as a potential sex partner (I know, GAH), and vice versa. I think he’s probably really “one of the girls” in term of his overall interests.
Gay or not though, the parents should have given you a heads’ up ahead of time.
Hi Cathy,
“The devil’s in the details,” I love that – thanks!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Cathy,
“The devil’s in the details,” I love that – thanks!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Cathy,
“The devil’s in the details,” I love that – thanks!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Cathy,
“The devil’s in the details,” I love that – thanks!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Cathy,
“The devil’s in the details,” I love that – thanks!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Elizabeth,
Thanks for stopping by and leaving your thought — Twitter ya’ latuh!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Elizabeth,
Thanks for stopping by and leaving your thought — Twitter ya’ latuh!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Elizabeth,
Thanks for stopping by and leaving your thought — Twitter ya’ latuh!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Elizabeth,
Thanks for stopping by and leaving your thought — Twitter ya’ latuh!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Elizabeth,
Thanks for stopping by and leaving your thought — Twitter ya’ latuh!
Hugs,
Liz
I’m SO not there yet and I’m SO happy not to be. But for now, I’m saying, NO!
I’m SO not there yet and I’m SO happy not to be. But for now, I’m saying, NO!
I’m SO not there yet and I’m SO happy not to be. But for now, I’m saying, NO!
I’m SO not there yet and I’m SO happy not to be. But for now, I’m saying, NO!
I’m SO not there yet and I’m SO happy not to be. But for now, I’m saying, NO!
I’m obviously in the minority to say “Why not?” and I also don’t think it would be the responsibility of the parent hosting the gathering to “make sure it’s okay with everyone*”, but I am running under the assumption that I know the parents and the kids reasonably well, that they’d be supervised and that they’re friends. Mostly I assume these things because I don’t know I’d be letting my kid sleep somewhere that I didn’t know those things.
There’s no reason to assume anything inappropriate is going on than you’d see at any non-sleepover 13 year old party. Kids fart around. When they’re all one big nerve ending they’ll grope and suck face on the school bus, for crying out loud.
*This kinda sticks in my craw. I’ve got to clear my guest list with everyone now? Really? That seems a wee bit presumptuous. What if I invite a coloured child, or one who is gay, or a smoker? You really can’t and shouldn’t expect to control, have input or get a list of who is and who isn’t coming to a party you are not hosting.
I’m obviously in the minority to say “Why not?” and I also don’t think it would be the responsibility of the parent hosting the gathering to “make sure it’s okay with everyone*”, but I am running under the assumption that I know the parents and the kids reasonably well, that they’d be supervised and that they’re friends. Mostly I assume these things because I don’t know I’d be letting my kid sleep somewhere that I didn’t know those things.
There’s no reason to assume anything inappropriate is going on than you’d see at any non-sleepover 13 year old party. Kids fart around. When they’re all one big nerve ending they’ll grope and suck face on the school bus, for crying out loud.
*This kinda sticks in my craw. I’ve got to clear my guest list with everyone now? Really? That seems a wee bit presumptuous. What if I invite a coloured child, or one who is gay, or a smoker? You really can’t and shouldn’t expect to control, have input or get a list of who is and who isn’t coming to a party you are not hosting.
I’m obviously in the minority to say “Why not?” and I also don’t think it would be the responsibility of the parent hosting the gathering to “make sure it’s okay with everyone*”, but I am running under the assumption that I know the parents and the kids reasonably well, that they’d be supervised and that they’re friends. Mostly I assume these things because I don’t know I’d be letting my kid sleep somewhere that I didn’t know those things.
There’s no reason to assume anything inappropriate is going on than you’d see at any non-sleepover 13 year old party. Kids fart around. When they’re all one big nerve ending they’ll grope and suck face on the school bus, for crying out loud.
*This kinda sticks in my craw. I’ve got to clear my guest list with everyone now? Really? That seems a wee bit presumptuous. What if I invite a coloured child, or one who is gay, or a smoker? You really can’t and shouldn’t expect to control, have input or get a list of who is and who isn’t coming to a party you are not hosting.
I’m obviously in the minority to say “Why not?” and I also don’t think it would be the responsibility of the parent hosting the gathering to “make sure it’s okay with everyone*”, but I am running under the assumption that I know the parents and the kids reasonably well, that they’d be supervised and that they’re friends. Mostly I assume these things because I don’t know I’d be letting my kid sleep somewhere that I didn’t know those things.
There’s no reason to assume anything inappropriate is going on than you’d see at any non-sleepover 13 year old party. Kids fart around. When they’re all one big nerve ending they’ll grope and suck face on the school bus, for crying out loud.
*This kinda sticks in my craw. I’ve got to clear my guest list with everyone now? Really? That seems a wee bit presumptuous. What if I invite a coloured child, or one who is gay, or a smoker? You really can’t and shouldn’t expect to control, have input or get a list of who is and who isn’t coming to a party you are not hosting.
I’m obviously in the minority to say “Why not?” and I also don’t think it would be the responsibility of the parent hosting the gathering to “make sure it’s okay with everyone*”, but I am running under the assumption that I know the parents and the kids reasonably well, that they’d be supervised and that they’re friends. Mostly I assume these things because I don’t know I’d be letting my kid sleep somewhere that I didn’t know those things.
There’s no reason to assume anything inappropriate is going on than you’d see at any non-sleepover 13 year old party. Kids fart around. When they’re all one big nerve ending they’ll grope and suck face on the school bus, for crying out loud.
*This kinda sticks in my craw. I’ve got to clear my guest list with everyone now? Really? That seems a wee bit presumptuous. What if I invite a coloured child, or one who is gay, or a smoker? You really can’t and shouldn’t expect to control, have input or get a list of who is and who isn’t coming to a party you are not hosting.
I so don’t even want to think about this, but our 12-year-old was invited to a friend’s house 2 years ago and 2 (two!) boys were invited, neither one gay, as far as I know (although I might suspect one of them…hmmm), and I didn’t find out until I was dropping our daughter off at their house! Now what? The boys ended up staying up all night playing Playstation, but they all hung out in the same room, slept in the same room, etc. Instinctively, I just don’t feel comfortable with the boy-girl party, but I’d rather it happened at 10 than 16. I actually hate sleepovers.
I so don’t even want to think about this, but our 12-year-old was invited to a friend’s house 2 years ago and 2 (two!) boys were invited, neither one gay, as far as I know (although I might suspect one of them…hmmm), and I didn’t find out until I was dropping our daughter off at their house! Now what? The boys ended up staying up all night playing Playstation, but they all hung out in the same room, slept in the same room, etc. Instinctively, I just don’t feel comfortable with the boy-girl party, but I’d rather it happened at 10 than 16. I actually hate sleepovers.
I so don’t even want to think about this, but our 12-year-old was invited to a friend’s house 2 years ago and 2 (two!) boys were invited, neither one gay, as far as I know (although I might suspect one of them…hmmm), and I didn’t find out until I was dropping our daughter off at their house! Now what? The boys ended up staying up all night playing Playstation, but they all hung out in the same room, slept in the same room, etc. Instinctively, I just don’t feel comfortable with the boy-girl party, but I’d rather it happened at 10 than 16. I actually hate sleepovers.
I so don’t even want to think about this, but our 12-year-old was invited to a friend’s house 2 years ago and 2 (two!) boys were invited, neither one gay, as far as I know (although I might suspect one of them…hmmm), and I didn’t find out until I was dropping our daughter off at their house! Now what? The boys ended up staying up all night playing Playstation, but they all hung out in the same room, slept in the same room, etc. Instinctively, I just don’t feel comfortable with the boy-girl party, but I’d rather it happened at 10 than 16. I actually hate sleepovers.
I so don’t even want to think about this, but our 12-year-old was invited to a friend’s house 2 years ago and 2 (two!) boys were invited, neither one gay, as far as I know (although I might suspect one of them…hmmm), and I didn’t find out until I was dropping our daughter off at their house! Now what? The boys ended up staying up all night playing Playstation, but they all hung out in the same room, slept in the same room, etc. Instinctively, I just don’t feel comfortable with the boy-girl party, but I’d rather it happened at 10 than 16. I actually hate sleepovers.
Hi Kate,
Final Verdict: I hate sleepovers, too!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Kate,
Final Verdict: I hate sleepovers, too!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Kate,
Final Verdict: I hate sleepovers, too!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Kate,
Final Verdict: I hate sleepovers, too!
Hugs,
Liz
Hi Kate,
Final Verdict: I hate sleepovers, too!
Hugs,
Liz
Hey wookie,
You are absolutely right. I shouldn’t, nor have I ever, or would I even want to, have control over anyone’s guest list. However, as a parent of an under-aged child, I do have a say of what party she (or, he) will (or, will not) be attending. You are also correct in pointing out that kids “grope and suck face on the school bus,” which is pretty much the reason why I’m not about to put out the green light on co-ed sleepovers. Not at 13.
Thanks for your adding your thoughts – you’ve made some very valid points.
Liz
Hey wookie,
You are absolutely right. I shouldn’t, nor have I ever, or would I even want to, have control over anyone’s guest list. However, as a parent of an under-aged child, I do have a say of what party she (or, he) will (or, will not) be attending. You are also correct in pointing out that kids “grope and suck face on the school bus,” which is pretty much the reason why I’m not about to put out the green light on co-ed sleepovers. Not at 13.
Thanks for your adding your thoughts – you’ve made some very valid points.
Liz
Hey wookie,
You are absolutely right. I shouldn’t, nor have I ever, or would I even want to, have control over anyone’s guest list. However, as a parent of an under-aged child, I do have a say of what party she (or, he) will (or, will not) be attending. You are also correct in pointing out that kids “grope and suck face on the school bus,” which is pretty much the reason why I’m not about to put out the green light on co-ed sleepovers. Not at 13.
Thanks for your adding your thoughts – you’ve made some very valid points.
Liz
Hey wookie,
You are absolutely right. I shouldn’t, nor have I ever, or would I even want to, have control over anyone’s guest list. However, as a parent of an under-aged child, I do have a say of what party she (or, he) will (or, will not) be attending. You are also correct in pointing out that kids “grope and suck face on the school bus,” which is pretty much the reason why I’m not about to put out the green light on co-ed sleepovers. Not at 13.
Thanks for your adding your thoughts – you’ve made some very valid points.
Liz
Hey wookie,
You are absolutely right. I shouldn’t, nor have I ever, or would I even want to, have control over anyone’s guest list. However, as a parent of an under-aged child, I do have a say of what party she (or, he) will (or, will not) be attending. You are also correct in pointing out that kids “grope and suck face on the school bus,” which is pretty much the reason why I’m not about to put out the green light on co-ed sleepovers. Not at 13.
Thanks for your adding your thoughts – you’ve made some very valid points.
Liz